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Can you achieve balance?

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I would take people that believe in nature,

I'd take people that believed in nature

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and let them build a natural farm,

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and people believe in science live in this city.

and people who believed in science would live in the city.

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All the cities would be saner in design,

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but there would be different value systems

but there'd be different value systems,

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and you can check them out, see how it works.

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If you want to live on organic food,

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and you have a community of 40,000 people,

and you have a community of 40,000 people

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living on organic food,

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they are all healthier, but mentally they're not.

they are all healthier but mentally they're not.

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Physically they are in perfect shape,

Physically they are in perfect shape.

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but mentally, they believe they've made metaphysical temples

But mentally, they believe they've made metaphysical temples

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and all that, you know what I mean?

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So you might check out different cultures and say

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yes they are all healthy physically, mentally they're aberrated.

"Yes they are all healthy physically, mentally they're aberrated".

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Do you think you know what I mean?

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You know Hitler was a vegetarian, don't you?

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He didn't believe in eating living things.

He didn't believe in eating living things,

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But his brain was no better than it was.

but his brain was no better than it was.

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So if a person eats nothing but organic food,

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never had cancer, never had heart disease, but is fucked up in here,

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has associative disease, you know what that means?

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Doesn't like Swedes, or Catholics, or gays, that's associate disease.

Doesn't like Swedes, or Catholics, or gays, that's associative disease.

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So we don't measure all of that stuff.

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A language is an attempt at controlling the behavior of people.

Our language is an attempt at controlling the behavior of people.

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It isn't a mechanism for controlling behavior,

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it's an attempt.

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People write books cause they think

People write books because they think

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they can impart their values to other people.

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The book is only one piece of the action, and many other things necessary,

The book is only one piece of the action and many other things are necessary,

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conversing with one another, up and back, disagreements,

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areas where you're little foggy, not quite clear.

areas where you're a little foggy, not quite clear.

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So when I tell you that a neurologist doesn't know what the problem is,

So when I tell you that a neurologist doesn't know what the problem is

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unless they're social.

unless he's social,

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He has no idea

he has no idea.

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if he works on the brain there's a study, how does the brain work?

If he works on the brain, does a study, how does the brain work?

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The brain doesn't work it responds to different cultures.

The brain doesn't work, it responds to different cultures.

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Do you understand that?

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Asking a question how does the brain work?

Asking a question "How does the brain work?"

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Can not be asked outside of the culture.

cannot be asked outside of the culture.

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You can't do that, it's like saying, how do we walk?

You can't do that. It's like saying "How do we walk?"

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Well, if you lived on a planet with 1/10 of gravity,

Well, if you lived on a planet with 1/10th the gravity,

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the guy says let's go for a 20 mile walk, you say okay,

the guy says "Let's go for a 20 mile walk", you say "Okay"

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because gravity doesn't bother you too much.

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But if you live in a planet with 5 times the gravity of the earth,

But if you lived in a planet with 5 times the gravity of the earth,

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the guy says want to walk a hundred feet? Says that's too much for me,

the guy wanted to walk a hundred feet, says "That's too much for me".

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do you understand by you respond to the environment?

Do you understand? You respond to the environment.

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Senators make laws, but they can't change natural law.

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They can't change the law of gravity, at a Congress meeting,

They can't change the law of gravity in a Congress meeting,

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so it's easier to go up the steps of the capital.

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They can't change natural law,

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although to a limited extent we can affect it.

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So all of us live within the trap called 'time and culture'.

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You know what that means?

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We live within the trap called 'time and culture'.

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So an anthropologist can't study culture,

So an anthropologist can't study culture

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unless he studies his own culture,

unless he studies his own culture.

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and if he does, he's not going to become an anthropologist,

And if he does, he's not going to become an anthropologist,

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becomes a student of life systems.

he becomes a student of life systems,

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Maybe, if you know what i mean.

maybe, if you know what I mean.

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All single professions will disappear in the future,

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I've no question about it. You have to become so general.

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'All-encompassing' is a better word than 'general',

(R. Meadows) - Maybe all-encompassing is a better word than general,

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because that sounds like it's less. - I can't use that word,

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'all-encompassing'.

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Well, 'more-encompassing', more-encompassing.

(R. Meadows) - Well, more encompassing.

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Emotions get in the way, because they block you

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from looking at things in a more general viewpoint,

from looking at things in a more general viewpoint.

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but when you like the way you think, that's called arrested development.

But when you like the way you think, that's called 'arrested development'.

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- You said one time there's no emotional problems,

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what did you mean by that?

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Well by that I meant

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there are relating problems, relating to different things,

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and you get hopped up about it, or you get angry, or you feel depressed,

and you get hopped up about it, or you get angry, or you feel depressed.

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the only way you should feel depressed, there are real reasons,

The only way you should feel depressed, there are real reasons

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fairly depressed

for feeling depressed:

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if Hitler won the war and they put you both in solitary confinement,

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you would feel depressed,

you would feel depressed

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because there's nothing you can do about it.

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If you were around 500 normal people,

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they can make you feel depressed.

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They can cut you out.

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But it depends how much you know about normal people

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so you don't let them do that to you.

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You know how far you can go,

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or you think how far you can go.

or you think you know how far you can go.

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You'll find out fast enough how far you can go.

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Just when people call up and say what is The Venus Project?

Just when people call up and say "What is The Venus Project?"

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You say have you got 2 weeks? You know?

You say "Have you got 2 weeks?" You know?

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You can't say "This is what it is", "O! Thank you very much."

You can't say "This is what it is", "Oh thank you very much."

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It's like answering questions, you can't answer questions.

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- But you still have to have a couple of sentences.

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- Yes you do. - Or you can't get around it.

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If you're really interested in knowing how people work,

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and how they relate to one another and the environment, get the book,

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because you got too many calls every day to go into detail.

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After you get the book, if you've got problems we can discuss it.

After you get the book, if you have problems we can discuss it.

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You ask a person what do you want? I want a car. No.

You ask a person "What do you want?" "I want a car." No.

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They wanna be a certain place at a given time,

They want to be at a certain place at a given time.

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that can be done by television, you know what I mean?

That could be done by television, you know what I mean?

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You can't visit your aunt Minnie on a screen full size.

You can visit your Aunt Minnie on a screen full size.

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You don't want to drive to Aunt Minnie's,

You don't want to drive to Aunt Minnie's.

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and you don't wanna drive to work, you want the pay cheque.

And you don't wanna drive to work, you want the paycheque,

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Not every week, when you want it, right?

not every week, when you want it, right?

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A guy says I want a job. He doesn't know what he's talking about,

A guy says "I want a job". He doesn't know what he's talking about.

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he wants some money to buy the things he needs.

He wants some money to buy the things he needs.

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So then he needs things, not money.

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You ask a person what do you want?

You ask a person "What do you want?"

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A decent home.

"A decent home."

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40,000 dollar home? A 20,000 dollar, what do you mean by decent home?

A 40,000 dollar home? A 20,000 dollar, what do you mean by decent home?

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But in this culture, people can't really use that kind of logic.

- But in this culture, people can't really use that kind of logic.

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They have to think within this system. - No. They're incapable.

They have to think within the system. - No. They're incapable.

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You can give them a whole new set of tools,

You're going to give them a whole new set of tools.

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and there'll be people that'll be gunning for you too,

And there'll be people that'll be gunning for you too,

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because you're taking their tools away,

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or their controls.

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So when you say,

So when you say

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what does The Venus Project really think?

"What does The Venus Project really think?"

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That's an abstract question,

that's an abstract question,

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depends on the situation.

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Lock your frame of referent. - What?

(R. Meadows) - Lock your frame of reference. - What?

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Said lock your frame of referent. Yes.

(R. Meadows) - I said lock your frame of reference. - Yeah.

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A person says what if you build a Venus Project

A person says "What if you build The Venus Project,

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and a meteor hits it and destroys it.

and a meteor hits it and destroys it?"

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Then we're fucked.

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Or we start over again if we're still around.

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You know, it's just a lot of unnecessary aberrant responses.

You know, just a lot of unnecessary aberrant responses. - Speculations.

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That's why I would never talk to a psychiatrist,

(R. Meadows) - Ego things, yeah. - That's why I would never talk to a psychiatrist,

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because they think they're on the right track.

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Although, there are some

Although there are some

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that know they know very little about human behavior,

that know they know very little about human behavior.

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you know there are people like that,

You know there are people like that,

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that have studied the field of medicine

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and really feel that they don't have much control over health.

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And a person says I want a healthy body

And a person says "I want a healthy body",

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and I say what do you want it for?

and I say "What do you want it for?"

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If you're just healthy so what?

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I'd rather have a healthy mind and a warped body.

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You know what I mean?

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But what we talk about is associative systems that correlate,

But what we talk about is associative systems that correlate

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you know what that means? With changing conditions.

with changing conditions.

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You know they ask you in school what do you wanna do with your life?

You know they ask you in school "What do you wanna do with your life?"

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What a stupid question.

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What can I do with my life?

"What can I do with my life?"

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School doesn't offer you everything.

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You got it? - You usually say

You go ahead. (R. Meadows) - You usually say

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a healthy associative system correlates with the real world,

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but that was good, it correlates with changing conditions.

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More appropriate, isn't it? - Yes.

It's more appropriate, huh? - Yes.

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Which is the real world I guess.

(R. Meadows) - Which is the real world I guess.

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But then you've gotta remember,

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you're drifting away from the average person,

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and you've gotta update your communication, or try.

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If you don't work on the people around you, you will get lost.

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And they might say what are you a perfectionist?

And they might say "What are you, a perfectionist?"

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You know, they have no other words.

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A perfectionist is a guy that died,

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that's it. You can't be a perfectionist.

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You can be particular about things.

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Just get away from the holistic words like truth, the absolute truth.

Just get away from the holistic word like 'truth', 'the absolute truth'.

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I said this before,

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in order to tell the truth you have to know everything,

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to know that which is true.

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Okay you guys, I'm going to relax.

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That was good, Jacque. Thanks Jacque.

- That was good, Jacque. - Thanks Jacque.

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So that wraps up this lecture on behavior.

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He's pretty busy for a guy his age

He's pretty busy for a guy his age.

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who needs to be resting up after about 6 or 7 months of traveling.

He needs to be resting up after about 6 or 7 months of traveling.

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He actually has been drawing a lot since he got back,

He actually has been drawing a lot since he got back.

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he did this whole stack in about, actually 3 times this much,

He did this whole stack in about ... actually 3 times this much,

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but a lot of them he just rips them up, throws them away.

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The usual Venus Project tours

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which are held on some Saturdays will resume this month,

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so please check the website for the dates on those if you would like to attend.

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Since he got back from traveling he's had a couple of groups,

Since he got back from traveling he's had a couple of groups.

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this particular group was out of Miami

This particular group was out of Miami,

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and they have to do with permaculture,

and they have to do with permaculture

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and were interested in the Venus Project.

and were interested in The Venus Project.

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He also had a small group of 3 or 4 people before them

He also had a small group of three or four people before them

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that was from his original group in Miami

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when it was called 'Sociocyberneering'.

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So thanks for watching

So thanks for watching,

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and other things that we'll be posting soon. Thanks.

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Can you achieve balance?

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I would take people that believe in nature,

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and let them build a natural farm,

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and people believe in science live in this city.

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All the cities would be saner in design,

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but there would be different value systems

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and you can check them out, see how it works.

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If you want to live on organic food,

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and you have a community of 40,000 people,

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living on organic food,

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they are all healthier, but mentally they're not.

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Physically they are in perfect shape,

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but mentally, they believe they've made metaphysical temples

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and all that, you know what I mean?

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So you might check out different cultures and say

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yes they are all healthy physically, mentally they're aberrated.

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Do you think you know what I mean?

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You know Hitler was a vegetarian, don't you?

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He didn't believe in eating living things.

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But his brain was no better than it was.

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never had cancer, never had heart disease, but is fucked up in here,

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has associative disease, you know what that means?

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Doesn't like Swedes, or Catholics, or gays, that's associate disease.

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So we don't measure all of that stuff.

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A language is an attempt at controlling the behavior of people.

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It isn't a mechanism for controlling behavior,

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because you got too many calls every day to go into detail.

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that can be done by television, you know what I mean?

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Lock your frame of referent.  - What?

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Said lock your frame of referent. Yes.

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you know what that means? With changing conditions.

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What can I do with my life?

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School doesn't offer you everything.

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a healthy associative system correlates with the real world,

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but that was good, it correlates with changing conditions.

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that's it. You can't be a perfectionist.

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in order to tell the truth you have to know everything,

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to know that which is true.

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Okay you guys, I'm going to relax.

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That was good, Jacque. Thanks Jacque.

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So that wraps up this lecture on behavior.

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He's pretty busy for a guy his age

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who needs to be resting up after about 6 or 7 months of traveling.

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he did this whole stack in about, actually 3 times this much,

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but a lot of them he just rips them up, throws them away.

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The usual Venus Project tours

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which are held on some Saturdays will resume this month,

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so please check the website for the dates on those if you would like to attend.

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Can you achieve balance?

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I'd take people that believed in nature

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and let them build a natural farm,

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and people who believed in science would live in the city.

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All the cities would be saner in design,

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but there'd be different value systems,

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and you can check them out, see how it works.

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If you want to live on organic food,

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they are all healthier but mentally they're not.

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Physically they are in perfect shape.

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and all that, you know what I mean?

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has associative disease, you know what that means?

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We live within the trap called 'time and culture'.

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maybe, if you know what I mean.

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Just when people call up and say "What is The Venus Project?"

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You say "Have you got 2 weeks?" You know?

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You can't say "This is what it is", "Oh thank you very much."

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It's like answering questions, you can't answer questions.

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- But you still have to have a couple of sentences.

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- Yes you do.  - Or you can't get around it.

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If you're really interested in knowing how people work,

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and how they relate to one another and the environment, get the book,

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because you got too many calls every day to go into detail.

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After you get the book, if you have problems we can discuss it.

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You ask a person "What do you want?" "I want a car." No.

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They want to be at a certain place at a given time.

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That could be done by television, you know what I mean?

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You can visit your Aunt Minnie on a screen full size.

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You don't want to drive to Aunt Minnie's.

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And you don't wanna drive to work, you want the paycheque,

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not every week, when you want it, right?

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A guy says "I want a job". He doesn't know what he's talking about.

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He wants some money to buy the things he needs.

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So then he needs things, not money.

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You ask a person "What do you want?"

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"A decent home."

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A 40,000 dollar home? A 20,000 dollar, what do you mean by decent home?

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- But in this culture, people can't really use that kind of logic.

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They have to think within the system.  - No. They're incapable.

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You're going to give them a whole new set of tools.

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And there'll be people that'll be gunning for you too,

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because you're taking their tools away,

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or their controls.

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So when you say

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"What does The Venus Project really think?"

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that's an abstract question,

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depends on the situation.

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(R. Meadows) - Lock your frame of reference.  - What?

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(R. Meadows) - I said lock your frame of reference. - Yeah.

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A person says "What if you build The Venus Project,

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and a meteor hits it and destroys it?"

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Then we're fucked.

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Or we start over again if we're still around.

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You know, just a lot of unnecessary aberrant responses. - Speculations. 

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(R. Meadows) - Ego things, yeah. - That's why I would never talk to a psychiatrist,

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because they think they're on the right track.

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Although there are some

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that know they know very little about human behavior.

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You know there are people like that,

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that have studied the field of medicine

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and really feel that they don't have much control over health.

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And a person says "I want a healthy body",

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and I say "What do you want it for?"

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If you're just healthy so what?

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I'd rather have a healthy mind and a warped body.

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You know what I mean?

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But what we talk about is associative systems that correlate

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with changing conditions.

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You know they ask you in school "What do you wanna do with your life?"

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What a stupid question.

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"What can I do with my life?"

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School doesn't offer you everything.

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You go ahead. (R. Meadows) - You usually say

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a healthy associative system correlates with the real world,

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but that was good, it correlates with changing conditions.

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It's more appropriate, huh?  - Yes.

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(R. Meadows) - Which is the real world I guess.

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But then you've gotta remember,

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you're drifting away from the average person,

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and you've gotta update your communication, or try.

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If you don't work on the people around you, you will get lost.

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And they might say "What are you, a perfectionist?"

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You know, they have no other words.

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A perfectionist is a guy that died,

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that's it. You can't be a perfectionist.

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You can be particular about things.

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Just get away from the holistic word like 'truth', 'the absolute truth'.

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I said this before,

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in order to tell the truth you have to know everything,

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to know that which is true.

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Okay you guys, I'm going to relax.

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- That was good, Jacque. - Thanks Jacque.

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So that wraps up this lecture on behavior.

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He's pretty busy for a guy his age.

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He needs to be resting up after about 6 or 7 months of traveling.

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He actually has been drawing a lot since he got back.

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He did this whole stack in about ... actually 3 times this much,

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but a lot of them he just rips them up, throws them away.

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The usual Venus Project tours

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which are held on some Saturdays will resume this month,

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so please check the website for the dates on those if you would like to attend.

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Since he got back from traveling he's had a couple of groups.

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This particular group was out of Miami,

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and they have to do with permaculture

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and were interested in The Venus Project.

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He also had a small group of three or four people before them

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that was from his original group in Miami

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when it was called 'Sociocyberneering'.

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So thanks for watching,

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and keep an eye out for more lectures

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and other things that we'll be posting soon. Thanks.

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- There's so much of it.

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